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President Masoud Barzani talks regional turmoil, Kurdish unity, Iraq’s future

Amr Al Housni

Jan. 25, 2025 • 6 min read
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In an exclusive interview with Shams TV, President Masoud Barzani addressed key regional and domestic issues, including Kurdish unity, Iraq’s political challenges, and the fallout from Bashar al-Assad’s regime collapse.

DUBAI, UAE - In an exclusive interview with Shams TV conducted in Arabic and aired on Friday, Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) leader Masoud Barzani, the former President of the Kurdistan Region, spoke about key regional and domestic issues. 

 

The wide-ranging discussion touched on the sudden fall of Bashar al-Assad’s regime, Kurdish unity, relations with Baghdad, armed factions in Iraq, the roles of Iran and Hezbollah, and the implications of recent political shifts in the Middle East, including the return of Donald Trump to the White House.

 

Barzani, known for his candid and straightforward approach, addressed the complexities of Iraq’s political landscape and the broader Kurdish cause, offering insights into the challenges and opportunities facing the region.

 

Iran’s influence and the role of Hezbollah

Barzani provided a nuanced view of Iran’s influence in Iraq and the region, describing it as a key player with both opportunities and challenges. 

 

“Iran’s influence in Iraq remains strong, but in the broader region, its role has declined,” he said. 

 

Barzani urged Tehran to adopt a more constructive approach to its relationship with Iraq, emphasizing mutual respect and non-interference. “Iraq should not be a battleground for foreign powers,” he added.

 

He also touched on the role of Hezbollah in Lebanon, noting its dominant position in the country’s political landscape. 

 

“The Lebanese people deserve peace and stability, and we hope to see their leaders rise to the occasion,” Barzani said. 

 

While acknowledging Hezbollah’s continued influence, he remarked that the group is increasingly challenged by changing regional and global dynamics. 

 

Barzani called for dialogue and peaceful solutions to ensure stability in Lebanon and the region.

 

Challenges with Baghdad

 

Barzani highlighted the longstanding issues between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and the federal government in Baghdad, emphasizing that the root of many problems lies in political intentions. 

 

“There isn’t a single decision-making entity in Baghdad right now; there are multiple parties involved,” he said.

 

The Kurdish leader praised Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani’s willingness to work with the KRG but acknowledged the challenges Sudani faces from other political forces. 

 

“Sudani agreed on many matters with the Regional prime minister, but they didn’t let him implement these agreements,” Barzani said.

 

He expressed hope that Iraq’s upcoming elections could bring new leadership focused on partnership and cooperation. 

 

“Maybe the elections will bring new faces, new mentalities, and fresh blood free from bad intentions. That’s what we hope,” he said.

 

Repeal of Baath-era laws

 

Barzani welcomed Iraq’s recent repeal of Baath-era property confiscation laws, which disproportionately targeted Kurds and Turkmens. 

 

“This is a victory for justice and conscience,” he said. 

 

However, he acknowledged potential challenges in implementation. 

 

“Some government entities used to hide behind these laws. Now that they’re repealed, the lands must return to their rightful owners,” he said.

 

When asked whether this decision could resolve land disputes in Kirkuk, Barzani described it as “just the beginning” of addressing historical grievances. 

 

He also praised the Iraqi Parliament’s leadership and the cooperation of political parties in reaching this significant milestone.

 

Withdrawal from the Iraqi political process

 

Barzani admitted that withdrawing from Iraq’s political process has been considered, but only as a last resort. 

 

“Frankly, we’re not seeking positions—whether it’s the Presidency, deputy premiership, or a ministerial role. It’s about national rights, dignity, and genuine partnership,” he said.

 

He made it clear that if the principles of partnership, balance, and consensus are entirely eroded, participation would no longer be meaningful. 

 

“Why should we participate in a government where we have no voice, authority, or ability to make changes?” he asked, while assuring that any decision would not lead to conflict.

 

Fall of the Assad Regime

 

Barzani expressed surprise at the sudden collapse of Bashar al-Assad’s regime in December 2024, noting that its fall was hastened by the withdrawal of Russian and Iranian support. 

 

“The reliance on exhausted Syrian forces led to a collapse similar to Mosul in 2014,” he said.

 

On Syria’s new leadership under Ahmad al-Sharaa, Barzani conveyed cautious optimism. 

 

“So far, the statements are good, but actions speak louder than words. The leadership must demonstrate practical steps toward resolving issues and addressing the grievances of Kurds and other marginalized groups,” he said.

 

Meeting Mazloum Abdi

Barzani discussed his recent meeting with Mazloum Abdi, commander of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), calling it historic and necessary. 

 

The two leaders discussed Kurdish unity and the future of Syrian Kurds. 

 

“I advised him to focus on dialogue, avoid external influence, and unite Kurdish positions. I also stressed that the PKK should let Syrian Kurds determine their fate independently,” Barzani said.

 

He emphasized that the Kurdistan Region stands ready to support Syrian Kurds politically and economically while encouraging them to pursue peaceful solutions. 

 

“If Kurds—or any oppressed group—face injustice, we will help without hesitation,” he said.

 

Kurdish unity and federalism

 

Barzani reiterated the importance of unity among Kurds across Iraq, Syria, Turkey, and Iran, lamenting divisions that have historically weakened their cause.

 

“Fragmentation has always served the interests of those who oppose Kurdish rights,” he said.

 

He advocated for a federal model in Syria, similar to Iraq, to ensure the fair distribution of wealth and power while respecting diversity. 

 

“Federalism is the ideal solution for countries with diverse ethnicities and religions. If federalism isn’t embraced, the alternative must not be oppression or denial of rights,” he added.

 

Armed Factions and the PMF


Barzani expressed concerns about armed groups operating outside state control in Iraq, including the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF).

 

He emphasized the need for their integration into the national military to ensure stability and sovereignty. 

 

“Any armed group, even the army, must not interfere in politics. However, recent developments show that risks will persist as long as there are factions outside state control,” he said. 

 

Barzani stressed that all armed forces in Iraq should be under the authority of the commander-in-chief to prevent destabilizing influences.

 

Israel, Peace, and Trump’s Return

 

Barzani also reflected on recent conflicts involving Israel and the broader implications for the region. He emphasized that peace is the only viable path forward. 

 

“We’ve seen the devastation caused by wars from 1948 to October 7. The result was destruction, ruin, and bloodshed,” he said.

 

On the return of Donald Trump to the White House, Barzani expressed hope for a new era of stability and cooperation. 

 

“It could usher in a new era. Stability and international cooperation are essential for the region,” he said.

 

Barzani concluded with a message to the Kurdish people: “Our cause is just and sacred. The Kurdish people must never abandon their rights but must also reject violence as a means to achieve their goals. Unity is the key to our future.”

 

The interview, spanning major regional developments and Kurdish aspirations, showcased Barzani’s vision for a more peaceful, inclusive, and prosperous Middle East.

 

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Author Amr Al Housni

Amr Al Housni is a Dubai-based journalist with a focus on reporting news and events across the MENA region.

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